J.J. Young on 5 Oct 2003 19:28:03 -0000


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Re: [eia] limited access revisions


If it turns out that we decide it is legal for the French with Ney to attack
Madrid (I didn't think it was), then I would like to add to my reinforcement
orders the placement of Wellington at Madrid.  Any objections, Kyle ?

-JJY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Gorman" <mpgorman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2003 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] limited access revisions


>
> >
> >     The basic problem is that not restricting the exit path would allow
> > the country that is supposed to be withdrawing from FET to abuse the
> > rules and hunt down allies of the previous enemy.  This new rule that I
> > am proposing would allow forces in FET to exit by whichever path they
> > choose while also reducing the incentive to abuse the limited access
rules.
> >
> >What do the rest of you think?
> >
> >kdh
>          I think that since making peace with an enemy while an ally
> remains at war with them is grounds to allow the still belligerent ally to
> force the now non-belligerent ally break the alliance means that the rules
> expect that doing so can screw over your ally.  In that light, I think we
> don't need to restrict such impolite behavior as attacking forces in the
> lands you have made peace with.
>
>          Another way to look at it is that while Spain is no longer at war
> with France, in the example of interest to Kyle, it is not neutral.  As
> Spain has granted access to British forces to use Spain as a base of
> operations to attack France, Spain is at best a non-belligerent and at
> worst an undeclared belligerent.  As such, France would be justified in
> striking at Spanish assets to the extent that they are supporting the
> British military.  Thus, if Spain lets the British troops shelter in her
> cities, and the British choose to retire into a city and put at risk the
> Spanish civilian population, France should be allowed to attack them with
> the forces allowed to be in Spain.
>          This isn't to say that there wouldn't be political fallout from
> doing so, but France would have some justification in its actions.
>
>          Yeah, it's annoying to the nation hosting the battles and the
> inability of Spain to do anything about it still bugs me some, but I think
> restricting attack options seems the more troublesome path in the long
run.
>
> Mike
>
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