Kyle H on 27 Jul 2002 15:04:03 -0000 |
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[eia] various thoughts |
I've decided that Ney will fight outside the city after all. Yes, Turkey's fleet has to leave Damietta. 6.2.6 reads: "If a port in which a fleet is located becomes enemy-controlled, the fleet must be moved *immediately* (...) into an adjacent sea area or the port's blockade box." With regard to whether the Egyptians can attack Palestine, I have not found any definitive language. (4.6.5.2 talks about the controlling major power's forces not being allowed to help, but it doesn't say whether the minor country forces themselves may launch a cross-border attack.) So we are left asking ourselves what makes sense. On the one hand, it seems to make some intuitive sense that a minor country's forces can be used to attack the forces that are invading it, even if those forces have not yet crossed the border. On the other hand, I don't think it is makes sense to suggest that Britain could take control of Palestine away from Turkey without a British declaration of war against Turkey. And, to me, this latter consideration is more weighty. So if we accept the principle that Britain can't gain territory from Turkey as a result of Turkey's war with Egypt, then what rule makes sense. Does it make sense to say that Egypt's forces can cross the border to engage Turkish forces but cannot subsequently take control of the territory they occupy? That doesn't make sense to me. So I would suggest that the most reasonable ruling is that minor country forces should not be able to launch cross-border attacks at all unless the controlling major power is at war with the major power on the other side of the border. That seems to be the position that is most consistent with the rules. Another option, though, is to say that Egyptian occupation of Jerusalem would not result in British control of Palestine, but would rather result in Palestine's reversion to neutrality. This position would allow more realistic use of minor country forces, and it also seems consistent with the rules I have read. Assuming there is no definitive language about this problem to be found, which of the two interpretations do we prefer: no cross-border incursions by minor country forces without a declaration of war, or minor country occupation without a declaration of war results in reversion to neutrality? kdh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Gorman" <mpgorman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 1:17 AM Subject: [eia] Minor control thoughts > The Egyptian attack on Jerusalem got me to wondering what would happen if > someone declared war on a minor nation and that minor nation managed to > take over one of the attackers minors. If the major power controlling the > attacked minor is not at war with the attacking major power, can they take > control of a the conquered minor? It would seem that that would require a > declaration of war since you're taking a minor nation away from another > major power. > > Mike > > > _______________________________________________ > eia mailing list > eia@xxxxxxxxx > http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/eia > _______________________________________________ eia mailing list eia@xxxxxxxxx http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/eia