Re: [s-d] [s-b] fire and water

[Elliott Hird <penguinofthegods@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Yes! B brutes can get their own forum.
On 2009-03-29, comex <comexk@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 2:45 PM, Joel Uckelman <uckelman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Thus spake Geoffrey Spear:
>>> A Nomic was highly pragmatized.  The Administrator announced that the
>>> game was over, and while this was probably illegal at the time, the
>>> Statute of Limitations rule made it legal 2 nweeks later.  Only one
>>> game is happening on this mailing list.
>>
>>
>> You know, that's funny. I had entirely fogotten about that. The Statute of
>> Limitation *did* end the game, so long as my announcement counted as a
>> game action.
>
> I can't find any such message around Dec 2001 when B started.  The
> only relevant message (by David E. Smith) contains:
> {
> I hereby declare this day, 5 December 2001, to be the first day of nweek 1
> in "B Nomic" and that the game is officially underway.
> }
> nothing about A ending.  Joel did not post any business message about
> A ending for at least a year after that, so if this was some
> after-the-fact announcement of closure, someone needs to point me to
> when it was made.
>
> But even if such an announcement was made AND it counted as an action,
> the Statute of Limitation did not ratify it.  Rule 393/0 reads:
> {
> No Judgement shall change the effect of actions performed more than
> two nweeks before the corresponding RFJ was made, even if those
> actions were illegal or impossible. Such actions shall always be
> treated as if they were legal and possible.
> }
>
> Yes, it has been much more than two nweeks since the purported action,
> but there have *not* been more than two nweeks between the action and
> the corresponding RFJ, because no corresponding RFJ was ever made.
> For the last several years, if in fact such an A-is-dead message was
> made, anyone could have ambiguously made it effective by RFJing on it,
> but nobody did.
>
> However, on March 4-- nweek 314, nday 4 (give or take an nday), having
> noticed this, I posted the following:
> {
> I hereby become the Administrator.
> I hereby create a new Rule which reads: { comex can change the rules
> in any way by posting that e does so to a Public Forum. }
> }
>
> I've been waiting since then.  It is now March 29, nweek 317, nday 2.
> There have been two full nweeks between that action and now (plus
> several extra days), so it is unambiguously more than two nweeks
> later.
>
> I make a Request for Judgement on the Statement: { comex became the
> Administrator in the above-quoted message. }
> I make a Request for Judgement on the Statement: { comex created a
> rule in the above-quoted message. }
>
> Those actions, performed more than two nweeks before the corresponding
> RFJs above, shall always be treated as if they were legal and
> possible.  I am the administrator and there is a rule allowing me to
> change the rules at will.
>
> I hereby change the rules by amending Rule 393 (Statute of Limitation)
> to read, in its entirety:
> {
> No actions can be made in the game of A Nomic except by comex.
> }
>
> Now, once more-- does anyone want to play A Nomic?  If so, I'll
> unfreeze the game and remove the dictatorship, and we can finally get
> started.
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