Geoffrey Spear on Wed, 2 Jan 2008 16:30:24 -0700 (MST)


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Re: [s-d] [s-b] Consultation: Dominov > ALL?


Points are not defined as an Attribute; they're generic game objects
which can be possessed by other Objects.

On Jan 2, 2008 6:26 PM, Jamie Dallaire <bad.leprechaun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Properties are Game Objects too. Points are an Attribute, which usually
> should have a default value according to the rules. This particular
> attribute does not have a default value.
>
> Properties, on the other hand, are more like On/Off type mechanisms, the way
> I understand them. You can have different values of an attribute (0, 1, 15,
> 1234) but when it comes to properties, you either have them or you don't
> (Inactive, Alive, Cursed, the specific title or body of a proposal, etc.).
>
> BP
>
>
> On 1/2/08, Geoffrey Spear <geoffspear@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 2, 2008 6:18 PM, Jamie Dallaire <bad.leprechaun@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > I submit the following Consultation:
> > >
> > > {
> > > As of the time at which this Consultation is submitted, at an exchange
> > rate
> > > of 5 mackerel for 1 point, would it be possible for the Player named
> > Dominov
> > > to exchange all of his points for exactly 500 mackerel?
> > >
> > > Reasoning: The above exchange would necessitate 100 points. I submit
> > that
> > > Dominov has AT LEAST 28 points. Because the rules do not provide a
> > default
> > > score for any game object, the number of points that Dominov had upon
> > > joining the game is undefined. As such, and regardless of game custom,
> > it is
> > > just as valid to assume that Dominov started with 72 points as it is to
> > > assume that e started with 0 points. Rule 17 states that score cannot be
> > > negative, and we can state with confidence that Dominov now has 28
> > points
> > > more than e started with. The number of points e currently holds cannot
> > be
> > > precisely defined, but it lies somewhere between 28 and positive
> > infinity.
> > > This interval includes 100. Also note that Dominov became a Player
> > shortly
> > > AFTER the Public Display of points was ratified by Wooble's Refresh
> > > Proposal, during nweek 135.
> > > }
> > >
> > > Billy Pilgrim
> >
> > I don't believe a Player can come to possess any Game Object without
> > first gaining it.  Since a new Player has never been given any Points,
> > I don't see how he could have any.
> >
> > Now, if Points were a Property of Players, I could buy your argument.
> >
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