Aaron Coquet on Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:07:13 +0100 (CET)


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Re: [s-d] [s-b] Aaron C's Refresh Porposal


I submit the following [[revised]] refresh proposal:
{
The day is set to nday 1: Breakday [[to give us more time for the next
part]]
All Pending proposals are marked as Historical with a win-state of Lost. No
changes to points or wins are made as a result of this.
The proposals which have just been marked as Historical are all
automatically re-submitted by their original authors.
All ministries are Vacated.

All players who have been players for one full nWeek gain the active
property.
All players who have not been players for one full nWeek cease to be
players.
[[This gives everyone who already is a player a chance to be one, and if
there is debate about whether or not anyone is a player, they can try to
join again.]]

All Devices that exist, with the exception of the Holy Hand Grenade of
Antioch, are transformed into the price that was paid for them in Mack, and
are immediately given to the original purchaser. [[so that noone has any of
the new devices which exist in a quantum state, and no money is lost on the
deal.]]
Al Blueprints are destroyed.

All rules between 3-12 and 3-14 inclusive are repealed.

A player is created with the name "The Nomic"
"The Nomic" submits a proposal to add back rule 3-12
"The Nomic" submits a proposal to add back rule 3-13
"The Nomic" submits a proposal to add back rule 3-14
"The Nomic" ceases to be a player.

Create a new rule in section 1, called "Things not to do":
{
If an action is described, mentioned, or otherwise appears in the rules, it
is known as a "Registered" action.
If an action is prohibited or not allowed in the rules, it is known as an
"Offensive" action.

Offensive actions may not be taken.
Registered actions can only be taken in a way that is in accordance with the
rule or rules which describe or mention them, or in which they appear.
}
}

On Nov 26, 2007 4:38 PM, William P. Berard <william.berard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

>
> Le 26 nov. 07, à 20:57, Aaron Coquet a écrit :
>
> > I have nothing against you, specifically... Mostly, that was aimed at
> > making
> > the faction / agreement / player / things not be players, so we can
> > determine if they should be or not.
>
> No problem.
>
> >
> > I submit the following revision to my refresh proposal:
> >
>
> A couple of comments:  I like the idea of a simple solution (though
> BobTHJ has some interesting proposal with his oracularities system)
>
> > {
> > The day is set to nday 1: Breakday [[to give us more time for the next
> > part]]
> > All Pending proposals are marked as Historical with a win-state of
> > Lost. No
> > changes to points or wins are made as a result of this.
> > The proposals which are currently Pending are all automatically
> > re-submitted
> > by their original authors.
>
>
> Pending proposals are marked historical, then pending proposals are
> re-submitted? I am confused... plus if it is done in the order you
> mention, there is no pending proposals to be re-submitted, since they
> have all been made historical.
>
>
> > All ministries are Vacated.
> >
>
> Why not.
>
> > All players who have been players for one full nWeek, or who have
> > posted a
> > message to the Public Forum or the Emergency Forum, gain the active
> > property.
> > All players who have had debate about the status of their playerhood
> > or lack
> > thereof cease to be players, if in fact they were at all.
> > [[This gives everyone who already is a player a chance to be one, and
> > if
> > there is debate about whether or not anyone is a player, they can try
> > to
> > join again.]]
> >
>
> Good move.
>
> > All Devices that exist are transformed into the price that was paid
> > for them
> > in Mack.
>
> How about the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch?
>
> > Al Blueprints are destroyed.
> >
> > All rules between 3-12 and 3-14 inclusive are repealed.
> >
> > A player is created with the name "The Nomic"
> > "The Nomic" submits a proposal to add back rule 3-12
> > "The Nomic" submits a proposal to add back rule 3-13
> > "The Nomic" submits a proposal to add back rule 3-14
> > "The Nomic" ceases to be a player.
> > }
>
> Kudos on the idea of re-submitting to a fictious player in order not to
> give points were those proposal to pass (I doubt they would in the
> current state). Now I take it this is mostly about giving us a nweek to
> propose amendements to those rules in order to fix the loophole?
>
> This would work as a short term fix, deeper structrual changes such as
> the ones  suggested by BobTHJ could then be submitted as proposals.
> however adressing the monoploy vs. prohibition situation might be
> needed, as I doubt everyone will be fair-play enough not to abuse the
> "I can do it since it is not prohibited" trick in the nWeek needed for
> us to address the problem.
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