Daniel Lepage on Thu, 24 Mar 2005 00:05:12 -0600 (CST)


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Re: [s-d] Re: Winding the Coil



On Mar 23, 2005, at 6.02 PM, Peter Cooper Jr. wrote:

Daniel Lepage <dpl33@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:
r1898 defines the bonus as "the goodies that the first player to Wind
the Coil receives."

That means I get the goodies when I Wind it, and apparently 10 points
extra, which I hadn't noticed earlier.

Well, I was just trying to put together a persuasive argument that
since they're both trying to define what you get for completing the
coil, r33 says that the one appearing later in the rule is the one
that gets followed. But now I'm realizing that r33 is only if two
parts can't both be followed, and in this case it's abundantly clear
that they can in fact both be followed.

I guess the best argument I could make would be that the Bonus's
description is just a description, and not an instruction to actually
give out the Bonus upon the Winding of the Coil, but that seems like a
rather weak argument, too.

And since I still don't want to get on Wonko's bad side :), and am
coming up with less and less reasons to refuse the points, I'll
recognize the extra 50 points. Roster updated //R//.

Thanks :) Nice to know that an army of bunnies is good for something :)

I don't find it particularly shady - I requested a program back when I
didn't have time to write it, and nobody wrote it in the time between
then and now; now I've spent a fair bit of time writing it and am
collecting the fee.

In this case, I agree that it's a reasonable payment for a job
presumably well done. But in general, I don't like the fact that
people can give themselves points that way. It just seems way too open
to abuse.

And since the description of the Weaver includes that "E must provide
some way for the Ministers ... to automate their tasks if they so
choose", one could claim that making the occasional program like that
is why the Weaver is getting paid a salary of 20 points an nweek all
along. (Otherwise... why do we have the position?)

The Weaver actually does more than is currently apparent. There are a few things that the Cards scripts just can't do, so a couple times in the past few nweeks I've had to do it directly through MySQL; in these cases the Minister of Cards would have to ask the Weaver to take of these things. Since I'm both, these exchanges haven't been very obvious, but they've been happening. The new scripts should obviate future problems.

--
Wonko
I don't know anything about music. In my line you don't have to.
    - Elvis Presley

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