Daniel Peter Lepage on Tue, 13 Jul 2004 14:20:37 -0500 (CDT)


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Re: Re: [spoon-discuss] refresh proto


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> Date: Tue Jul 13 13:03:49 EDT 2004
> From: athena@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [spoon-discuss] refresh proto
> To: "discussion list for B Nomic" <spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> On Tue, Jul 13, 2004 at 05:44:32AM -0400, Glotmorf wrote:
> > On 12 Jul 2004 at 22:48, athena@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > 
> > > I respectfully disagree here. The point of sovereignty here is to make
> > > it clear that no other rules apply. It has humor to it, but it's not
> > > at all stupid IMHO.

I'm afraid I don't see how sovereignty makes that clear... as I understand it, that sovereignty bit exists because somebody thought it was funny. And it was funny, only now it's an old joke, and not funny any more.

Besides which, I disagree with keeping parts of the B Nomic ruleset like the sovereignty stuff, societies, and Offers, but not the Cards or Technologies, etc. It seems like we should either keep the things that amuse us, or throw them all out, not keep some and throw out others.

> > > The normal English meaning of a 'convention' is not binding. And this
> > > issue has come up often. People seem to want normal lowercase words to
> > > be defined explicitly at times, and this makes it clear that they have
> > > the English meaning, without the need for a game dictionary.
> > 
> > We want ALL words to be defined explicitly at times.  Shall we 
> > agree on an online dictionary to use as a default?
> 
> I don't think that's a good idea. There is no one dictionary or online
> dictionary that pins down English, and if we pick one, we will have deal
> with its omissions. Also, it's aesthetically ugly to tie our ruleset to
> an external web site like that.

Uglier than having us all quote a dozen different definitions for a given word from various sources whenever we argue about what things mean?

-- 
Wonko

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