Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Re: NWEEK 58 BALLOT

[Zarpint Jeremy Cook <mcfoufou@xxxxxxxxx>]

Well, points here are not zero-sum, and neither are Wins. And I think
the distinction between a competitive and cooperative game is moot
when the game doesn't terminate with a winner.

But one can still competitively try to scam Wins while not caring if
someone gets points from proposals. Suber distinguished between
a Substantive Nomic game, where players tried to win by accumulating
points, and a Procedural Nomic game, where players tried to paradox and
scam a Win.

I would think our game is the second kind generally. And I doubt we
have any direction in this game, or will, except in the direction
of increasing entropy. Long live the increase of entropy!

Zarpint



On Mon, 1 Mar 2004, Glotmorf wrote:

> On 1 Mar 2004 at 0:15, Zarpint Jeremy Cook wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 29 Feb 2004, Glotmorf wrote:
> >
> > > --- Bill Adlam <sagitta_elegans@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Proposal 1804/0: Choice Two (Teucer)
> > > > Yes.  Why not?
> > >
> > > Because the "Three-Proposal Monte" proposal didn't
> > > pass, so this amounts to free points for Teucer.
> > >
> > > - Glotmorf
> >
> > So what? What's wrong with that? It doesn't cost us anything.
>
> So we've made the transition from a competitive to a
> cooperative game? :)
>
> While I must admit I'm largely a spectator participant these
> days (haven't had the same fire since Glotmorf Rules!...), and
> the idea of a cooperative Nomic is intriguing, it wasn't how
> this game was begun.
>
> Then again, is it time to start thinking about the future
> direction of the game?
>
> 						Glotmorf
>
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