Re: [spoon-discuss] Chess

[Zarpint Jeremy Cook <mcfoufou@xxxxxxxxx>]

Well, if Wonko adds that to his offer, there's *buzz* no way for you to verify
whether he follows it or not. Of course, Wonko *crackle* could verify it. But
if he doesn't, it's indistinguishable *crackle* to anyone else.

None of this stops you from making an informal *buzz* agreement not to use
the software. It just wouldn't be illegal to break it.

Zarpint
The Style Police




On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Glotmorf wrote:

> If it's in violation of the terms of the offer, it's not a
> legal action.
>
> And of course it's distinguishable from a legal action.
> Whoever violates the offer can distinguish it.  The magic
> question isn't legality.  The magic question is verification.
>
> BTW, Wonko, what's your US rating?
>
> 						Glotmorf
>
>
> On 21 Jan 2004 at 1:43, Zarpint Jeremy Cook wrote:
>
> >
> > That *crackle* wouldn't work:
> >
> > "Any action indistinguishable from a legal action is legal."
> >
> > Zarpint
> > The Style Police
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Glotmorf wrote:
> >
> > > Add to this that chess-move-calculating software can't be used
> > > by either party, and I'll take you up on it.
> > >
> > > 						Glotmorf
> > >
> > >
> > > On 21 Jan 2004 at 0:19, Daniel Lepage wrote:
> > >
> > > > I can't recall if anyone's ever used the r814 (Offers) before. So
> > > > without any precedent to go by, I'm gonna see if I can write one up.
> > > > Here's my best try; if nobody can find fault with it, I will submit it
> > > > at the beginning of the next nweek:
> > > >
> > > > {{
> > > > __Pawns at Dawn__
> > > >
> > > > Any Player who is a member of INH may accept this Offer; no other
> > > > entities may. The player who accepts this Offer is herein referred to
> > > > as the "Opponent". The player who submitted this Offer is herein
> > > > referred to as "Wonko".
> > > >
> > > > Wonko and the Opponent will, through private emails, conduct a standard
> > > > game of FIDE chess by mail (herein referred to as the "game"). Upon the
> > > > completion of this game, the party who wins the game (the "Winner")
> > > > will be owed services from the other party (the "Loser"). The Loser is
> > > > required to perform the following services:
> > > > Within the first Checking Period of the first nweek following the
> > > > game's completion, e must give eir proxy to the Winner, with no
> > > > restrictions, as per r208. The Loser is required to cast no votes
> > > > during that nweek, except as the Winner allows, and may not reclaim eir
> > > > proxy until the first checking period of the nweek after the proxy is
> > > > given. (note: e may choose to allow the Winner to continue holding eir
> > > > proxy, if e desires; e is not bound by this Offer to take or refrain
> > > > from taking any actions after that point in time).
> > > >
> > > > The Contingency, should the Loser fail to give eir proxy at the
> > > > appointed time, or fail to adhere to the guidelines specified above, is
> > > > 60 points and 400 BNS, which the Loser must pay to the Winner; if the
> > > > Loser does not have enough points or BNS, then the Contingency is as
> > > > much of the above totals as the Loser can provide.
> > > >
> > > > The following rules shall apply to the game of chess:
> > > > Wonko and the Opponent will take moves by sending emails to each other
> > > > containing the moves, in any reasonable format.
> > > > When it is either player's turn, e shall have 10 ndays to make eir
> > > > move; if e fails to do so within that time, e is considered to have
> > > > forfeited the game.
> > > > }}
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Wonko
> > > > Award Wonko a Win.
> > > > -----[[BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK]}-----
> > > > Version: 3.1
> > > > GU/O d-(++)(?) s+:+ a--->+++ C++>++++>$ UB+>++++ P--@ L+>+++ E>++
> > > > W++(+++) N+{((++]]}}) o?>++++ K? w------- O? M++ V- PS@ PE-@ Y-- PGP-
> > > > t+ 5 X R+ tv--@ b+++@ DI++++ D G++ e*>++++ !h r++ y?
> > > > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
> > > >
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Zarpint            "All thy toiling only breeds new dreams, new dreams;
Jeremy Cook         there is no truth saving in thine own heart."
mcfoufou@xxxxxxxxx       --W.B. Yeats, The Song of the Happy Shepherd
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