Glotmorf on 21 Jan 2004 06:53:14 -0000


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Re: [spoon-discuss] Chess


If it's in violation of the terms of the offer, it's not a 
legal action.

And of course it's distinguishable from a legal action.  
Whoever violates the offer can distinguish it.  The magic 
question isn't legality.  The magic question is verification.

BTW, Wonko, what's your US rating?

						Glotmorf


On 21 Jan 2004 at 1:43, Zarpint Jeremy Cook wrote:

> 
> That *crackle* wouldn't work:
> 
> "Any action indistinguishable from a legal action is legal."
> 
> Zarpint
> The Style Police
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Glotmorf wrote:
> 
> > Add to this that chess-move-calculating software can't be used
> > by either party, and I'll take you up on it.
> >
> > 						Glotmorf
> >
> >
> > On 21 Jan 2004 at 0:19, Daniel Lepage wrote:
> >
> > > I can't recall if anyone's ever used the r814 (Offers) before. So
> > > without any precedent to go by, I'm gonna see if I can write one up.
> > > Here's my best try; if nobody can find fault with it, I will submit it
> > > at the beginning of the next nweek:
> > >
> > > {{
> > > __Pawns at Dawn__
> > >
> > > Any Player who is a member of INH may accept this Offer; no other
> > > entities may. The player who accepts this Offer is herein referred to
> > > as the "Opponent". The player who submitted this Offer is herein
> > > referred to as "Wonko".
> > >
> > > Wonko and the Opponent will, through private emails, conduct a standard
> > > game of FIDE chess by mail (herein referred to as the "game"). Upon the
> > > completion of this game, the party who wins the game (the "Winner")
> > > will be owed services from the other party (the "Loser"). The Loser is
> > > required to perform the following services:
> > > Within the first Checking Period of the first nweek following the
> > > game's completion, e must give eir proxy to the Winner, with no
> > > restrictions, as per r208. The Loser is required to cast no votes
> > > during that nweek, except as the Winner allows, and may not reclaim eir
> > > proxy until the first checking period of the nweek after the proxy is
> > > given. (note: e may choose to allow the Winner to continue holding eir
> > > proxy, if e desires; e is not bound by this Offer to take or refrain
> > > from taking any actions after that point in time).
> > >
> > > The Contingency, should the Loser fail to give eir proxy at the
> > > appointed time, or fail to adhere to the guidelines specified above, is
> > > 60 points and 400 BNS, which the Loser must pay to the Winner; if the
> > > Loser does not have enough points or BNS, then the Contingency is as
> > > much of the above totals as the Loser can provide.
> > >
> > > The following rules shall apply to the game of chess:
> > > Wonko and the Opponent will take moves by sending emails to each other
> > > containing the moves, in any reasonable format.
> > > When it is either player's turn, e shall have 10 ndays to make eir
> > > move; if e fails to do so within that time, e is considered to have
> > > forfeited the game.
> > > }}
> > >
> > > --
> > > Wonko
> > > Award Wonko a Win.
> > > -----[[BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK]}-----
> > > Version: 3.1
> > > GU/O d-(++)(?) s+:+ a--->+++ C++>++++>$ UB+>++++ P--@ L+>+++ E>++
> > > W++(+++) N+{((++]]}}) o?>++++ K? w------- O? M++ V- PS@ PE-@ Y-- PGP-
> > > t+ 5 X R+ tv--@ b+++@ DI++++ D G++ e*>++++ !h r++ y?
> > > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
> > >
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