Daniel Lepage on 17 Jan 2004 00:12:59 -0000


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On Jan 16, 2004, at 7:01 PM, Zarpint Jeremy Cook wrote:



How does this rule affect the Minister Elections we currently have?
It looks to me like they're in conflict with this.
Oops. I meant to include something that fixed the Ministerial Elections to use this. 


What's wrong with it there that we need this rule?
Well, there are a couple of things in the ministries Election rule that don't work like they should... like the fact that if any two candidates get the same number of votes, the admin gets to pick who wins, and that curious thing about needing a certain fraction of the votes, which either never comes up or does nothing, depending on how you read the rule...
I suppose much of this won't be necessary right now, though - the only things that use Elections are Ministries, which already have an albeit faulty system, and the Council of Elders that I'm about to propose. 


And we need
more counting methods than the Borda count. And why is the Borda count
the default, anyway? I like the Hare system, where the candidate with the 
lowest vote count gets eliminated, and the votes get transferred to the
second choice.
I assumed others would be added as needed; the only election currently in the ruleset uses a first-past-the-post system, which I don't like at all, and the Borda count is a personal favorite of mine. I can add in IRV if you want. 


On Fri, 16 Jan 2004, Daniel Lepage wrote:


I amend my proposal entitled "Standard Election Procedure" to read:
{{
__Standardized Elections__

Create a rule:
{{
__Standard Election Procedure__
An Election is a type of event used to make a decision. An Election has 
four primary attributes: a list of Eligible Voters, a Duration, a
Selection Algorithm, and a list of choices.

The Eligible Voters set is the set of all Game Objects who are allowed
to cast votes in the Election.
Each Eligible Voter may cast a single vote in the Election. If a Voter
submits more than one vote, the *last* one submitted is their actual
vote (so votes can be changed by resubmitting them). The Duration of a
Election is an amount of time signifying how long voting will continue. 
When the Duration of the Election Concludes, a single choice from the
list of choices is selected using the Selection Algorithm.

A Selection Method is a means of choosing one of many choices through
votes. A method is a valid Selection Method if and only if it specifies 
A) what constitutes a legal vote, and B) how to determine a winner
based on legally cast votes.

Only Selection Methods defined by the rules may be used in Elections.
Elections are only called when specified by the rules. If a Election is 
called, but no list of Eligible Voters is specified for it, it is
assumed that all Players are Eligible Voters, and nothing else is. If a 
Election is called, but no Duration is specified, it is assumed that
the Duration is until the end of the current nweek.


A. Types of Durations

The Duration of a Election may be any of the following:
* An absolute point in ntime, such as "nweek 212, nday 6". In this
case, the Duration Concludes at that point in ntime, or, if it has not
elapsed but that time has already passed, immediately.
* A relative point in ntime, such as "three ndays from the calling of
the Election". In this case, the Duration Concludes at the end of the
specified period. A Election, where is a unit of ntime, is a Election
with as its Duration (for example, a 3-nday Election)
* Either of the above, with a point/amount in real time/wtime
substituted for the point in ntime. This use is strongly discouraged
except in cases where ntime would be unsuitable.
* Indeterminate. An Indeterminate Duration does not Conclude based on
time. Indeterminate Elections should generally be Short-Circuited (see
below), but don't have to be...

B. Special Elections

A Election may have any of the following optional flags:
* Short-Circuited: The Duration of a Short-Circuited Election Concludes 
as soon as every Eligible Voter has cast a vote.
* Very Badly Wired (VBW): A VBW Election's Duration Concludes as soon
as enough Eligible Voters have cast votes that the outcome of the
Election could not be changed by the votes cast by the rest of the
Voters.
* Strict: In a Strict Election, each Voter gets exactly one Vote; this
sentence takes precedence over any rule that would allow players to
cast multiple votes on a Election.
* Concealable: In a Concealable Election, votes may be sent to the
Administrator privately; when the Duration Concludes, the administrator 
must post publicly the private votes.

C. Selection Methods

C.1. Borda Count

The Borda Count is a Selection Method. In an election using a Borda
Count, a legal vote consists of a list of all the choices, numbered one 
to n (where n is the number of choices), listed in the order of the
Voter's choosing (so each Voter chooses one choice for First Place, one 
for Second, etc.).

The approval rating of a choice in this case is xn-m, where x is the
number of votes cast, n is the number of choices in the Election, and m 
is the sum of the ranks it received in all Voter's votes. [[ This is
equivalent to giving each choice n points every time it was voted
first, n-1 every time it was voted second, etc. ]]

When a choice needs to be selected, a Choice Pool is made. The Choice
Pool is intially the set of all choices.

The following removals are then made from the Choice Pool, until only
one choice remains; that choice is then selected. At each step, only
those choices left in the Pool are considered.

First, every choice that had a lower approval rating than any other
choice is removed.
Then, every choice that received fewer votes for First Place than any
other choice is removed.
Then the same is done for second place, then third, etc., until every
place has been considered.
If, after all of this, the Choice Pool still contains more than one
choice, a choice is selected at random from the Choice Pool.

If the Selection Method of an election is not specified, it is assumed
to be using the Borda Count.

}}

Create another rule:
{{
__Personnel Elections__

A Personnel Election is an Election preceded by a Nomination.

The Nomination consists of a set of Nominables and a Duration. The set
of Nominables is a list of game Objects. The Duration is a Duration as
defined in the context of Elections.

After a Nomination begins but before its Duration Concludes, players
may nominate candidates from within the set of Nominables. All
nominated objects become Candidates.

When the Nomination's Duration Concludes, the Election begins, where
the set of choices is the set of all Candidates from the Nomination.

}}
}}

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