Daniel Lepage on 15 Sep 2003 04:37:49 -0000


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Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] [PGo] Alliance



On Monday, September 15, 2003, at 12:32 AM, Baron von Skippy wrote:

Your move fails, because you didn't correctly represent the gamesate.

Your stone at G3 should die - it now constitutes a surrounded Dragon, as every piece in it belongs either to you or your Ally the Baron, but none of the pieces around it are owned by a mutual ally of the two of
you (since Glotmorf and BvS aren't allied). In order for you to ally
with the Baron without losing anything, Glotmorf has to do it first.
-You have some funny ideas, Wonko. I'm nowhere /near/ there, so his
allying with me changes nothing in that area. And I'm sure we'd all
appreciate it is you'd stop trying to raise false Dragons... sorry,
been sitting on that one since the game started. Seriously, though.
Thanks to Glotmorf's stone at G2, that Dragon is a big L-shape with a
metric assload of Liberties. If I'm wrong, kindly explain how. And
explain what I have to do with it.-

A dragon is defined as a set of stones and a group of allies s.t. all
the stones in the set are adjacent to each other, all the stones in the set are owned by members of the allied group, and no stones adjacent to
the set were owned by a mutual ally of those allies. Well, Rob's stone
at G3, now that he has an ally which  Glotmorf doesn't, is a set of
stones s.t. all the stones in the set are adjacent to each other, all
the stones in the set are owned by members of the group of you and him, and there are no adjacent stones owned by mutual allies of you and him;
the set also has no adjacent empty locations, and therefore no
liberties; so it gets captured.

-You must be joking me... It even says in the rule that a set AAABBCCC would have AB and BC dragons. You're saying that set would have /no/ multiplayer dragons, because A and C aren't allied. Rob is B. Glotmorf is A. And I'm not a part of it, because my nearest stone is several away. Give over, man. This is a lost cause.-

Well, I did give over; but not because it was a lost cause; I don't think you understood anything I said, since I certainly never said that AAABBCCC would have no multiplayer dragons; under my logic it would have 2 - AAABB, and BBCCC. Which, coincidentally, would be true under every single other possible interpretation that's been advanced so far.

But I did give it up, so it's a moot point now.

--
Wonko

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