Re: [spoon-discuss] Re: [Spoon-business] Oops

[Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Saturday, August 9, 2003, at 12:37  AM, Baron von Skippy wrote:

> > > > > For Unbridled Hostility towards all other players in this game, I
> > > > > Kick
> > > > > The Pusher Robot in the Ass.
> > > > >
> > > > > Rationale: Granting oneself god powers is so passe.-
> > > >
> > > > I don't see how it's hostile, especially if it failed - doing 
> > > > nothing
> > > > isn't unkind to anyone. And of course, if it succeeded, kicks in the
> > > > ass aren't here anymore; so either way this fails.
> > > -It isn't hostile. This is the problem. People are doing many things
> > > which scream "kick my ass," which I interpret to mean "Kick me In The
> > > Ass." Unfortunately, there's no provision, so we apply a blanket
> > > rationale and see if Dave's annoyed enough to agree. Maybe we should
> > > be allowed to Kick people for just being annoying... nah, that'd be
> > > abused 47 million times in the first day.-
> > > > Besides, if anyone ought to be kicked, it's everyone who voted for
> > > > your
> > > > two silly props - random silliness is okay, but not as part of the
> > > > rules.
> > > -My prop was no sillier or damaging than the last time I changed Rule
> > > 1 - to add the motto. Don't blame me for this lunacy.-
> >
> > You proposed to make us a Nation, and voted to repeal the laws of all
> > nations...
>
> -Oh, yes, and since I was the only player who voted, it all comes down 
> to me. Yes, that makes lots of sense...-

I said, "if anyone ought to be kicked it's everyone who voted for your 
two silly props". That's not a accusation against you, unless you claim 
to be the only one who voted for those props.

> > > > I think in the future we ought to make a habit of voting against 
> > > > silly
> > > > proposals; the last one that passed (IT) also caused a lot of
> > > > unintentional trouble, IIRC.
> > > -Yes, let's just make dour, serious props. Take all the silliness 
> > > out.
> > > Yee-ha that sounds like fun. Whoop-de-freaking-do. We're gonna party
> > > all nweek long. Or we could continue to screw around in this game and
> > > actually keep it fun...-
> >
> > I don't mean stop making silly props, or even stop voting for them; I
> > mean stop voting for silly props that shouldn't actually make a
> > difference. Silly props are the basis of the game - things like Kicks
> > in the Ass and Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster Gnomes are inherently silly
> > - but things like "let's make us a nation", "let's destroy anything
> > that's a nation", and "let's make something called IT that does 
> > nothing
> > and everything so we can shoot CFI's at each other for a while" are
> > needless silliness. It's like cheese. If you build a house out of
> > string cheese, it's really silly, but at least it keeps the rain out
> > until the dingos eat the walls. If you build a whiffle bat out of
> > string cheese, it's really silly, but at least... no, it's just really
> > silly. IID drives are like string cheese houses. Sovereignty
> > declarations are like string cheese whiffle bats.
> > 	In other words, let's not vote for silliness if it doesn't improve 
> > the
> > game.
> -You lost me when you began talking about violating zoning ordinances. 
> Seriously, though, if it's too silly for you (as if such a thing 
> exists!), vote against it. I like total randomness in this game. It's 
> a reason to keep coming back day after day. So, unless doing so would 
> obviously screw everything up completely, I'm more or less likely to 
> vote for something that adds a little silliness. Now, it does have to 
> be functional silliness if it wants to add a new rule, I'll grant that 
> much.-

I did vote against it. And you voted for it, and if it weren't for the 
fact that Dave still can technically veto it, the game would now be 
over. I'm not complaining about your voting for total randomness; I 
complain because you went against what you just said above by voting 
for something that was not functional silliness, and that would screw 
everything up completely.

I really would not classify IT or the 'repeal all national laws' as 
"functional silliness".

--
Wonko


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