Re: [spoon-discuss] Where do we go from here?

[Daniel Lepage <dplepage@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Sunday, July 13, 2003, at 06:43  PM, Baron von Skippy wrote:

> > > -Well, in the WoT series, channelers who saw a trick
> > > used could usually sort out how to reproduce it,
> > > unless they were completely useless in that area of
> > > magic. I was thinking we'd still have a series of
> > > levels to this - for example, you /cannot/ use
> > > balefire until you're a fully trained and, indeed,
> > > advanced Aes Sedai / Asha'man. Also/instead, I was
> > > thinking that maybe the more you use one of the five
> > > areas, the more skill you have in it, so just
> > > because you can afford to create a rainstorm doesn't
> > > mean you won't end up injuring yourself because of
> > > it.-
> >
> > I'm still thinking learning curve, or time put into
> > complexity.  Granted, the game doesn't have to
> > resemble reality in any way, but...suppose one did the
> > equivalent of a laboratory thing, with experiments and
> > notes and all, and took a week or a month or whatever
> > to accomplish a specific effect.  Is it that realistic
> > that someone could see it done and be able to do it
> > immediately?
>
> -I think this should be determined on a case-by-case basis. In 
> general, it takes a while after someone invents something new for 
> other people to figure out what they did, yes, but as far as Aes Sedai 
> work, those books have always made it sound like if you see it done, 
> you can do it yourself. Now, this offers a nice way around that: If 
> I'm across the Grid from you, I probably can't see the flows you weave 
> as you fling things at someone else, but they can. Perhaps if someone 
> is in Radar (or similar) range of you, you learn it automatically, but 
> otherwise you have to puzzle it out on your own. Of course, that's 
> far, far too complicated to keep track of. Maybe we should go in the 
> other direction; instead of penalizing players who didn't come up with 
> it, just reward the one who did, whether that be in points or 
> increased skill. I like that idea better - for each new spell you 
> invent, for example, you get more points in the fields you used or a 
> better chance of not blasting yourse!
>  lf to bits next time you try to tie your shoes with magic. Or for the 
> building field, for each new invention you get a better chance to 
> understand more complex objects or use new tools, etc.-
> > I'm thinking putting effects together might not be too
> > terribly different from building your car, only the
> > components are knowledge, skill and inspiration rather
> > than pipes, boiler and wheels.
> >
> > > > And...what about combining magic and science? :)
> > >
> > > -Now we're cooking with gas... this is part of what
> > > makes this flexible system better, that you could do
> > > something like that (provided the two Ministers see
> > > no problems with it). I can't think of any such
> > > mixes offhand, but I can easily see how it would be
> > > useful to have the option available.-
> >
> > There are a few variations in Mage of the classic
> > clown car...a minivan that contains a five-story
> > mansion, for example.  Such combinations were
> > sometimes necessary because the technophiles (AKA the
> > Technocracy) had managed to structure reality to the
> > point that anyone trying to do things too radical
> > suffered backlash, and REALLY BAD backlash if they
> > tried and failed.  So some things had to be hidden
> > within technology so reality wouldn't catch on.
> >
> > I suppose we could have clown speeders...though what
> > you'd do with a speeder full of clowns I have no
> > idea...
> -Clown attack? "CLOWNIKAZE!"-

We have a barbecue. Clowns are crunchy and good with ketchup. Although 
they taste a little funny.

Though I do like the idea of a Clowndoken spell.

--
Wonko

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