Wonko on 2 Jun 2002 17:07:59 -0000


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Re: spoon-discuss: Proposed r0 proposal


Quoth Glotmorf,

> On 5/31/02 at 12:04 AM Wonko wrote:
> 
>> Quoth Glotmorf,
>> 
>>> On 5/30/02 at 10:46 PM The Voice wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> From: "Glotmorf" <glotmorf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Reply-To: spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> To: spoon-discuss@xxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: Re: spoon-discuss: Proposed r0 proposal
>>>>> Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 22:43:21 -0400
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/31/02 at 1:31 AM Jonathan David Amery wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> b) The clock doesn't work.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The clock doesn't work?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Glotmorf
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I believe that this is the logic train:
>>>> 1) It is impossible to know the score of anyone who owns a dimship.
>>>> 2) It is, therefore, impossible to know if anyone has won or not.
>>>> 3) The clock turns off as soon as someone wins.
>>>> 4) Therefore, we do not know whether the clock is on or off.
>>>> 
>>>> -0- Thus Spake The Voice -0-
>>> 
>>> Well, you can know *my* score, since I'm not displaced in score, but I
>> see
>>> what you're concerned about.
>>> 
>>> But I still maintain the same argument.  Either the game is completely
>> broken
>>> and what anyone's score is doesn't matter, or precedent dictates the game
>>> isn't broken and the runaway acceleration stuff didn't happen.  I favor
>> the
>>> latter, because to allow the runaway acceleration is to allow the game
>> to be
>>> broken.
>> 
>> Precedent cannot take precedence over the rules. We didn't notice it was
>> broken, but it was. And still is.
>> 
>> And we don't know your score - people may or may not have won, and
>> depending
>> on that, your score may or may not have been reset to 0.
>> 
>> --
>> Wonko
> 
> Actually, precedent can take precedence, at least in common law.  Hence you
> have things like easements, squatters' rights, common-law marriages, palimony
> and other things that legally exist solely because they'd been allowed to
> continue for a long enough period of time.  Granted, we don't explicitly
> acknowledge common law in the rules, but then we're back to things like game
> custom, common sense and other things that allow us to use English and email
> without explicitly saying so.

Are easements, squatters' rights, common-law marriages, and palimony
forbidden by any law? Certainly no law that I know of makes them illegal.
However, the DimShip rule does make people's scores undefined, so the fact
that we've been ignoring it doesn't mean it's not true.


-- 
Wonko