Re: [s-b] Consultation : Factions being players

["Jamie Dallaire" <bad.leprechaun@xxxxxxxxx>]

This is Consultation Number 48 and I assign it to Priest 0x4461736864617368.

Billy Pilgrim

On Nov 25, 2007 5:30 AM, William P. Berard <william.berard@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> I submit the following consultation :
>
> {
> Can a game Object be both a Player and a Faction?
> }
>
> Reasoning :
>
> A Faction, as defined by Rule 5-2, is an Agreement. An Agreement
> (capital A), as defined by rule 5-1, is an agreement (lower case a)
> between parties, parties being External Forces. By its definition, an
> Agreement, is a game Object that binds External Forces together, it is
> not,in itself, an External Force. As such, an Agreement cannot be a
> Player, as a Player is an Outsider, that is, both an Object within the
> game and an External Force outside the game. Since 5-3 does not state
> that Agreements get an External Force status if they qualify as a
> Faction, then I think that Factions cannot be players, as they are not
> External Forces.
>
> Moreover, Rule 1-3 defines an External Force as "anything which exists
> independently of the game. That is, it would still exist if the game
> stopped existing, and would still exist if the game had never started
> existing.". Although the Agreement defining a Faction could exist
> outside of the game, A Faction needs to be an Agreement recognized by
> the game to be a Faction, and the very concept of Faction is something
> that is recognized, or not, in the game. As such, were, the game cease
> to exist, any Faction would cease to exist, as they are defined within
> the game. Here again, this disqualifies Factions for the status of
> External Force, and, as such, Factions can not be players.
>
>
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