David E. Smith on 6 Aug 2003 04:23:33 -0000


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[Spoon-business] NWEEK 46 RESULTS


Open CFIs:

I vaguely remember Glotmorf ruling on CFI 1602. If so, please tell me so,
and I'll dig for the ruling. If not, I'll have to recuse em.

Wild Card is recused from CFI 1610. It is reassigned to the Upper House.

Emil Bleehall is recused from CFI 1616. Ditto the Upper House.

Did BvS rule on CFI 1620? If not, well, e's recused as well, Upper House.

The Upper House presently consists of Anything McGee, Iain, Rob, Wonko,
and maybe Glotmorf and Baron von Skippy (contingent upon whether or not
they've ruled on the above CFIs that I can't find).


Random Voting Stuff:

I disagree with the "infinite numbers of Selective Lobbyist votes"
interpretation of SkArcher. Since e didn't provide an alternate (i.e. "if
this doesn't work, I want my two votes to go here and here"), I'm just
discarding all of eir real and alleged Selective Lobbyist votes.

BvS doesn't cause Wonko to forfeit. That's just silly.
Anything McGee gives 5 points to BvS. BvS gives 'em back. Yay.

The Baron's "no new players" CFI is 1626, assigned to SkArcher.
BvS may or may not be suffering from massive multiple personalities.
Pending the resolution of the relevant CFI, I don't recognize said
multiple personalities.

I finally get round to updating some titles. bd is promoted to Patriarch
(+3 Respect). Iain's title is corrected to Oligarch.


Random other new proposals:

"More is Less" is p1625/0, /1.
"Less" is p1627/0.
"There's a hole" is p1628/0.
Anything McGee's quote prop is p1629/0.
"Enough Already!" is p1630/0.

"The Underground Society" (charter) is 1632. Revised.

As The Voice is not currently on the roster, e cannot return from Leave.

I propose:

{{__A Cheat By Any Other Name__

[[ ... is still a cheat. Nweek 46 featured one prop with ELEVEN parts, and
another with SEVEN. If that's not avoiding the Bandwidth rule, I dunno
what is. ]]

Repeal rule 706.

}}

The above is p1631/0.



Quote Prop points (these aren't conveniently automated, so I have to
add these points in by hand):

Teucer +3
SkArcher +9
Glotmorf +3
McGee +6
WC +3
Rob +18
Wonko +5


Nweek transition stuff:

The new Gremlin Number is 2.


The Raw Vote Results:

Proposal 1589/1 (Setting Stuff on Fire For Fun and Profit) (Baron von Skippy):
AFF: Anything McGee, Glotmorf, SkArcher
NEG: Iain, Rob, The Pusher Robot, Wild Card, Wonko
ABS: Baron von Skippy
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (3-5-1-0). Measure fails. Baron von Skippy loses 3 points.

Proposal 1590/1 (Quote Prop by Teucer) (Teucer):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Iain, Rob, SkArcher, The Pusher
     Robot, Wild Card
NEG: Glotmorf, Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (7-2-0-0). Measure passes. Quote prop.

Proposal 1593/0 (In Case of Magazine Article, Break Glass) (Baron von Skippy):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, SkArcher, Wild Card
NEG: Glotmorf, Iain, Rob, The Pusher Robot, Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (4-5-0-0). Measure fails. Baron von Skippy loses 4 points.

Proposal 1594/0 (You'd be surprised) (Wonko):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, Rob, The Pusher Robot,
     Wild Card, Wonko
NEG: Iain, SkArcher
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (7-2-0-0). Measure passes. Wonko gains 6 points.
Created r1633/0.
Created r1634/0.
Created r1635/0.
Created r1636/0.

Proposal 1595/1 (Quote prop by BvS) (Baron von Skippy):
AFF: Iain, Rob, SkArcher, Wild Card
NEG: Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, The Pusher Robot, Wonko
ABS: Anything McGee
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (4-4-1-0). Measure fails. Quote prop.
(The rules don't specify whether there's a specific penalty for failed
quote props. There's a separate bonus for success, but nothing is
mentioned for failure. So, in true OO Inheritance fashion, I'm assuming
that a failed quote prop acts the same as a failed normal prop.)
Baron von Skippy loses 4 points.

Proposal 1596/2 (Sovereignty) (Teucer):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Iain, The Pusher Robot, Wild Card
NEG: Glotmorf, Rob, Wonko
ABS: SkArcher
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (5-3-1-0). Measure passes. Teucer gains 7 points.
Created r1637/0.

Proposal 1597/1 (Freedom!) (Baron von Skippy):
AFF: Anything McGee (x3), Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, Iain, SkArcher, The
     Pusher Robot, Wild Card
NEG: Rob, Wonko
ABS: Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (9-2-1-0). Measure passes. Baron von Skippy gains 13 points.
Created r1/2.

Proposal 1598/1 (The Checkpointly Recognizer) (M-Tek):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, Rob, SkArcher, The Pusher
     Robot, Wild Card, Wonko
ABS: Iain
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (8-0-1-0). Measure passes. M-Tek gains 7 points.
Created r1586/1.

Proposal 1599/1 (You Can't Even Do That When You're NOT Drunk!) (M-Tek):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, Iain, Rob, SkArcher, The
     Pusher Robot, Wild Card, Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (9-0-0-0). Measure passes. M-Tek gains 10 points.
Created r1081/8.

Proposal 1600/0 (What was that again?) (Glotmorf):
AFF: Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, Rob, SkArcher, The Pusher Robot, Wild Card
NEG: Anything McGee, Iain, Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (6-3-0-0). Measure passes. Glotmorf gains 13 points.
Craeted r1638/0.

Proposal 1601/0 (Cleaning Up the Bits and Pieces) (Wonko):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, Iain, Rob, SkArcher, The
     Pusher Robot, Wild Card, Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (9-0-0-0). Measure passes. Wonko gains 11 points.
Created r256/18.
Created r295/4.
Created r625/19.
Created r1081/9.

Proposal 1603/1 (Political Go) (Rob):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Iain, Rob, SkArcher, Wild Card
ABS: The Pusher Robot
SHL: Glotmorf, Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (6-0-1-2). Measure passes. Rob gains 12 points.
Created r1639/0.

Proposal 1604/3 (Gutting the Carcass) (Anything McGee):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy
NEG: Wonko
ABS: The Pusher Robot
SHL: Rob, Wild Card
ODD: Glotmorf, Iain, SkArcher
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (2-1-1-2).
Multivotes or Oddvotes counted (3). Adjust totals manually.
Voting results override!

YYYYYYYYYYY Anything McGee
YYYYYYYYYYY Baron von Skippy
NNNNNNNNNNN Wonko
SSSSSSSSSSS Rob
SSSSSSSSSSS Wild Card
YYYYYYYNNNN Iain
YYNNYYYNNNN SkArcher
YYNYYNNNNYN Glotmorf

1: 5-2-1-1 pass
2: 5-2-1-1 pass
3: 3-3-1-2 shelve
4: 4-2-1-2 pass
5: 5-1-1-2 pass
6: 4-2-1-2 pass
7: 4-2-1-2 pass
8: 2-4-1-2 fail
9: 2-4-1-2 fail
a: 3-3-1-2 shelve
b: 2-4-1-2 fail

Repealed r1137.
Created r1139/3.
Created r256/19.
Created r625/20.
Repealed r904.
Created p1640/0 (containing parts 3 and 10 of the original, renumbered as
parts 1 and 2).

Proposal 1605/1 (T-shirt Fix) (Anything McGee):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Wild Card
NEG: Glotmorf, Iain, Rob, The Pusher Robot, Wonko
ABS: SkArcher
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (3-5-1-0). Measure fails. Anything McGee loses 5 points.

Proposal 1606/1 (Deputy Fix) (Anything McGee):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, Iain, The Pusher Robot,
     Wild Card, Wonko
NEG: Rob
ABS: SkArcher
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (7-1-1-0). Measure passes. Anything McGee gains 10 points.
Created r1272/1.

Proposal 1607/3 (Proposal and Comatose Fixes) (Anything McGee):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Iain, The Pusher Robot
NEG: Glotmorf, Rob, SkArcher
SHL: Wild Card
ODD: Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (4-3-0-1). Measure fails. Measure is shelved.
Multivotes or Oddvotes counted (1). Adjust totals manually.
Wonko votes YES on parts 4 and 7, and NO on all other parts.
Thus, parts 4 and 7 pass (5-3-0-1), all other parts are shelved (4-4-0-1).
Part 7 is vetoed by the Administrator. Quotes should be rare and really
meaningful/significant/clever. So it gets added to the shelf as well.
Heck, while we're at it, I'll veto part 4 as well, because it doesn't
specify whether the 5-point bonus applies to Quote props.
So, it's all shelved.
Created p1641/0.

Proposal 1608/4 (No Refunds) (SkArcher):
AFF: Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, The Pusher Robot, Wild Card, Wonko
NEG: Anything McGee, Iain, Rob, SkArcher
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (5-4-0-0). Measure passes. SkArcher gains 10 points.
Created r15/14.
SkArcher gives 5 of these points to Anything McGee.

Proposal 1609/0 (Quote Prop by SkArcher) (SkArcher):
AFF: Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, Iain, Rob, SkArcher, The Pusher Robot,
     Wild Card
NEG: Wonko
ABS: Anything McGee
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (7-1-1-0). Measure passes. Quote prop.

Proposal 1611/2 (Players) (Baron von Skippy):
AFF: Baron von Skippy, The Pusher Robot, Wild Card
NEG: Rob, SkArcher, Wonko
ABS: Iain
SHL: Anything McGee, Glotmorf
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (3-3-1-2). Measure fails. Measure is shelved.
Created p1642/0.

Proposal 1612/0 (What does not kill me nets me a title (Fatally Flawed))
(Baron von Skippy):
AFF: Anything McGee, Wild Card
NEG: Rob, Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (2-2-0-0). Measure fails. Baron von Skippy loses 2 points.

Proposal 1613/1 (Scams) (Baron von Skippy):
AFF: Wild Card
NEG: Glotmorf, Iain, Rob, Wonko
SHL: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, SkArcher, The Pusher Robot
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (1-4-0-4). Measure fails. Measure is shelved.
Created p1643/0.

Proposal 1614/0 (Glotmorf's profit prop) (Glotmorf):
AFF: Glotmorf, Wild Card
NEG: Anything McGee, Iain, Rob, The Pusher Robot, Wonko
ABS: Baron von Skippy, SkArcher
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (2-5-2-0). Measure fails. Glotmorf loses 2 points.

Proposal 1615/0 (Power Outage) (SkArcher):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Iain, Rob, SkArcher, The Pusher
     Robot, Wild Card
NEG: Glotmorf, Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (7-2-0-0). Measure passes. SkArcher gains 13 points.
Created r851/1.

Proposal 1617/0 (Quote Prop by Glotmorf) (Glotmorf):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, Iain, SkArcher, The
     Pusher Robot, Wild Card
NEG: Rob, Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (7-2-0-0). Measure passes. Quote prop.

Proposal 1618/0 (Quote Prop by Anything McGee) (Anything McGee):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, Iain, SkArcher, The
Pusher Robot, Wild Card
NEG: Rob, Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (7-2-0-0). Measure passes. Quote prop.

Proposal 1619/0 (Subgame Fora) (SkArcher):
AFF: Anything McGee, Iain, SkArcher, The Pusher Robot, Wild Card
NEG: Rob
SHL: Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (5-1-0-3). Measure passes. SkArcher gains 9 points.
Created r16/2.
I will resist the urge to, under this clause, designate spoon-business to
be the "The Admin Hates You All" Subgame Forum, which would apparently
free me from ever having to do anything ever again.

Proposal 1621/0 (I Could Already Be A Winner) (Teucer):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Wild Card
NEG: Glotmorf, Iain, Rob, The Pusher Robot, Wonko
ABS: SkArcher
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (3-5-1-0). Measure fails. Teucer loses 5 points.

Proposal 1622/0 (Quote Prop by Wild Card) (Wild Card):
AFF: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, Iain, Rob, SkArcher, Wild Card
NEG: The Pusher Robot
ABS: Wonko
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (7-1-1-0). Measure passes. Quote prop.

Proposal 1623/0 (Exploit it as far as we can go) (Wild Card):
AFF: Wild Card (x2)
NEG: Anything McGee, Baron von Skippy, Glotmorf, Iain, Rob, The Pusher
     Robot, Wonko
ABS: SkArcher
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (2-7-1-0). Measure fails. Wild Card loses 2 points.

Proposal 1624/0 (lets not) (SkArcher):
AFF: Baron von Skippy
NEG: Glotmorf, Iain, Rob, The Pusher Robot, Wild Card, Wonko
ABS: SkArcher
SHL: Anything McGee
Counts (Y/N/A/S) : (1-6-1-1). Measure fails. SkArcher loses 3 points.


Affirmative vote counts (BW Grem):
Baron von Skippy: 24 votes
Teucer: 15 votes
Wonko: 16 votes
M-Tek: 17 votes
Glotmorf: 15 votes
Rob: 6 votes
Anything McGee: 23 votes
SkArcher: 25 votes (*)
Wild Card: 8 votes

Contrary vote counts (1pt per):
Anything McGee: 6 votes
SkArcher: 4 votes
Glotmorf: 4 votes
Baron von Skippy: 4 votes
Wild Card: 5 votes
Iain: 3 votes
Rob: 5 votes
Wonko: 4 votes

Plus Points:
Wonko: 17
Teucer: 7
Baron von Skippy: 13
M-Tek: 17
Glotmorf: 13
Rob: 12
Anything McGee: 10
SkArcher: 39

Minus Points:
Baron von Skippy: 7
Anything McGee: 5
Glotmorf: 2
Teucer: 5
Wild Card: 2
SkArcher: 3

Plus Props:
Wonko: 2
Teucer: 1
Baron von Skippy: 1
M-Tek: 2
Glotmorf: 1
Rob: 1
Anything McGee: 1
SkArcher: 4

Minus Props:
Baron von Skippy: 2
Anything McGee: 1
Glotmorf: 1
Teucer: 1
Wild Card: 1
SkArcher: 1
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