J.J. Young on Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:38:32 -0500 (CDT)


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Re: [eia] impasse


This email is written on the assumption that we're starting over, which we
aren't neccessarily.

On the issue of UMP rules; I don't like them, and I know there are others
that feel more strongly about it than me.  In fact, if a seventh player does
not present him/herself, rather than use the UMP rules I would rather have
us bid for the first six countries, and then bid again (if desired) to add
Turkey as a second country.  There is a parallel set of rules for handling
this (parallel to the UMP rules, that is, but much simpler); both countries
controlled by one player have to meet their victory conditions, and the two
countries can never go to war.  Nobody seems very fond of the idea of
running Turkey as their sole country, anyway.

Just throwing the idea into the pot.

-JJY

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Helle" <jhelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 11:17 PM
Subject: RE: [eia] impasse


> I am not opposed to starting over.  However, if we do this will be the
third
> time we've done so since I've started playing.  I think we should discuss
> (and decide on) a mechanism that will prevent us starting over any more
> after this.  I have gotten the impression that some players are not fond
of
> the UMP rules, but these may have to be our fall back position in the
> future.
>
> Also, JJ and I discussed the bidding system a week or two ago and it seems
> both of us are wondering if we have been bidding too high to make victory
> reasonably attainable.  Kyle, would the EIH people have some input on
> "sensible" bids?
>
> BTW, I'm not necessarily making a case for starting over.  I'm just
raising
> some issues I think we should address if we decide to.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
> Joel Uckelman
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:03 PM
> To: public list for an Empires in Arms game
> Subject: Re: [eia] impasse
>
>
> Thus spake "J.J. Young":
> > Are we planning to keep going in the present game with a new player for
> > Austria, or would the group prefer to start over ?  I don't have a
strong
> > preference either way; I'm just trying to start the discussion.  If we
are
> > starting over, then it would save Nate the trouble.
> >
> > -JJY
>
> I've been of the opinion that we should declare Britain the winner and
> start over for quite a long time now.
>
> --
> J.
>
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