Re: [eia] naval retreats and access

["J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Jim sent this while I was writing a reply to his first response.  As far as
I can tell, we are in agreement.

-JJY

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Helle" <jhelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] naval retreats and access


> Reading this again, it doesn't seem so obvious. I think the loser should
> choose to use an ally's port or his own (only those two choices at this
> stage), and if he chooses to use an allied port over his own then it must
be
> THE nearest one.  I don't think in a retreat you should get to move any
> further than absolutely neccesary to remove yourself from the enemy.  This
> was what caught me by surprise in January, when the German corps moved
twice
> the distance of a normal move during their retreats!
> JRH
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Helle" <jhelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 9:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [eia] naval retreats and access
>
>
> > JJ, it seems obvious to me that in this case the only port available
would
> > be Ally A.  In the wording of the rule you refer to it says "*the one
> > nearest* friendly, unblockaded port .  Unless two ports are *equally
> close*,
> > I don't see where there is an option.
> > JRH
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 1:59 PM
> > Subject: [eia] naval retreats and access
> >
> >
> > > While we're on the subject of naval access and ports, here's a
question
> > I'd like us to resolve;
> > >
> > > Suppose a major power is allied to A and B, and has been granted
access
> to
> > both allies' ports.  The major power loses a naval battle and has to
> > retreat.  Rule 6.3.5.1 says, "the naval combat loser retreats all fleets
> > that were in the combat to the one nearest unblockaded friendly
(including
> > an ally's port, with access permission and if the loser wishes to use
it)
> > port within 7 movement points (losing player's choice if more than one
> > possible port is equally close)."
> > >
> > > Let's say that ally B's nearest port is closer than the nearest port
of
> > the retreating major power, and that ally A's nearest port is closer
> still.
> > Obviously, the loser has the choice of either his own nearest port, or
the
> > nearest port of an ally which is closer or equally close.  But my
question
> > is this; can the loser choose which ally's nearest port to retreat to,
or
> > must he retreat to the nearest of _all_ allied ports ?
> > >
> > > In other words, are the retreating major power's choices;
> > > 1.)  The nearest of his own controlled ports
> > > 2.)  The nearest port of ally A
> > > 3.)  The nearest port of ally B
> > >
> > > Or are the choices restricted to;
> > > 1.)  The nearest of his own controlled ports
> > > 2.)  The nearest port of any ally (ally A in this example)
> > >
> > > So do you get to pick and choose which ally's nearest port to retreat
> to,
> > or are you restricted to the nearest of all allied ports ?  Personally,
I
> > lean toward the more restricted interpretation, since you can always
> ignore
> > allied ports and retreat to your own closest controlled port.  But I
don't
> > have any substantial rules reference to back this up, and I will go with
> the
> > majority view.
> > >
> > > -JJY
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > eia mailing list
> > > eia@xxxxxxxxx
> > > http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/eia
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > eia mailing list
> > eia@xxxxxxxxx
> > http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/eia
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> eia mailing list
> eia@xxxxxxxxx
> http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/eia
>

_______________________________________________
eia mailing list
eia@xxxxxxxxx
http://lists.ellipsis.cx/mailman/listinfo/eia