J.J. Young on Sat, 20 Mar 2004 19:56:22 -0600 (CST)


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Re: [eia] a question about trade


It sounds as though we need the rest of the group to weigh in as to how to
interpret this situation.

-JJY

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "D Mount" <mount324@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] a question about trade


> Rule 8.2.1.2.2.2.2.1 clearly states "If Great Britain stops the American
trade, Great Britain gains the value of the American trade it stops."
>
> Since rule has been satisfied, rule 8.2.1.2.2.2.2.2 must be carried out.
>
> -DEM
>
>
>
>
> "J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Occupying Madrid creates a different situation than Britain choosing to
deny
> Spain its American trade. This is because if Britain chooses to deny the
> trade, Britain captures the trade money it denied to Spain.
>
> If rule 12.9 is activated if either a) Britain chooses to capture Spain's
> American trade, or b) Spain is kept from carrying out American trade by
> peace condition B.6., then I would still argue that neither condition
> applies. Britain did not choose to capture Spain's American trade, and
> Spain was prevented from carrying out American trade not by condition
B.6.,
> but by Madrid being occupied by an enemy.
>
> -JJY
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "D Mount"
> To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game"
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2004 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [eia] a question about trade
>
>
> > I think that G.B. is still "denying" Spain its American Trade because
G.B.
> is the one occupying Spain's capital city. If it were any other nation
that
> was occupying Spain's capital then I would say you have a point but since
it
> is still Great Britain that is "denying" Spain it's American Trade you
> should have to roll.
> >
> > What do the rest of you think?
> >
> > -DEM
> >
> > "J.J. Young" wrote:
> > 8.2.1.2.1.5 states that a major power with its national capital occupied
> may not conduct any form of trade. In my opinion, this means that Great
> Britain need not make a "War of 1812" roll for denying American trade to
> Spain, since no trade can be attempted for me to deny in the first place.
> >
> > Rule 12.9 states that "the British must make the die roll during any
Money
> and Manpower Collection Step in which any major powers are denied American
> trade by Britain and/or by the B.6. peace condition. Since neither of
these
> causes is the reason why Spain cannot carry on American trade, in my
opinion
> Britain need not make the roll.
> >
> > What do the rest of you think ?
> >
> > -JJY
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