Re: [eia] errata rules

["Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxx>]

    Mike makes some good points here about how Forcible Access eliminates
many of the problems we had been considering earlier about Limited Access.
Definitely food for thought...

kdh

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Gorman" <mpgorman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [eia] errata rules


> I think the forcible access would resolve a great many of the problems
we've
> been having with placing a limited access at the end of war rule into the
> game.  Countries have violated borders all the time in history without a
> declaration of war.  This rule doesn't let you attack the other country,
it
> lets you pass through and as I recall, while you are passing through, you
> can't declare war on them since you have troops on their soil.  You can
try
> to use it to force someone else to decalre war on you so you don't have to
> pay for it, but if they just let you go, you pay the cost for violating
> their border either way and you still can't attack them without declaring
> war yourself.
>
> It resolves all the issues for limited access about being able to trap
> someones forces with minimal forces of a still belligerent nation as they
> can choose to sink the political points and blow off your unwillingness to
> give them access and go home anyhow.
>
>
> I think the overwhelming numbers rule is an attempt to streamline battles,
> but as has been pointed out by several people, it doesn't really work with
> forces kept hidden and it makes the small force more dangerous as they get
> the chance to withdraw without paying the price in poor combat table of a
> withdraw chit choice.  So I think we should leave that one out.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Everett E. Proctor" <spiritmast@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 9:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [eia] errata rules
>
>
> > >     There are two brand new sets of rules in the errata which I think
we
> > > should debate before we decide to include them.  The first new rule is
> > > called "Forcible Access" and it reads as follows:
> > >
> > > 10.3.4 FORCIBLE ACCESS [A]:
> > >
> > >     The second new rule is called "Overwhelming Numbers" and it reads
as
> > > follows:
> > >
> > > 12.3.10 [A]: OVERWHELMING NUMBERS:
> >
> >
> > I am not in favor of adding either of these rules at this point.
> >
> > -Everett
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