RE: [eia] Retreat rules

["James Helle" <jhelle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Per 7.5.2.10.3.6 a force with no available retreat route is captured , along
with any leaders present.  For the sake of simplicity, I think we should
adhere to the rules where possible.  My reasoning for this is that the
statement has been made that everyone has access to the rules.  If the rules
as printed are not the rules, then someone is eventually going to make a
mistake because they did not realize that the rule had been changed.  Aside
from people simply making errors, this is a contributor to us continually
going back and changing orders.  I don't mind playing it either way, but
unless a rule seems drastically wrong I think we should consider playing
with the rules as written.  Hmmm, this just occurred to me; is anyone
physically keeping track of our house rules?  I recall long ago seeing a
list of them, but don't believe I still have it.  Kyle, is it possible ( or
too much trouble? ) to post these house rules on our EiA web page?  Hope
I've helped muddy the waters sufficiently!

-----Original Message-----
From: eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:eia-bounces@xxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of
J.J. Young
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 5:01 PM
To: public list for an Empires in Arms game
Subject: Re: [eia] Retreat rules


I do not object to the proposed house rule, as long as a retreating army
with _no_ unobstructed route is still retreated multiple spaces, and is not
wiped out or anything like that.  That would be too much of a departure from
the rules for me.  But I don't think that's what anyone's proposing; just
checking.

-JJY

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 6:23 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] Retreat rules


>     Wow, here's another case of us just blindly playing the rules
> incorrectly for a long, long time.  Thanks for notifying us of the
mistake,
> Mike.  I agree with you, though, that I think I prefer the way we have
> already been doing things, i.e., armies are retreated via the shortest
> *unobstructed* route to their nearest depot/capital.  Can we just call
this
> a house rule and move on?  Or would people like more discussion on this
> issue?
>
> kdh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Gorman" <mpgorman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 2:15 AM
> Subject: [eia] Retreat rules
>
>
> > I was reading over the retreat rules as I planned my next land phase and
I
> > think we've been doing them in a way that makes sense to me, but does
not
> > follow the rules.  From what I can see, forces always retreat towards
> their
> > closest depot, or lacking any placed depots, towards their closest
> > capital.  If the way is blocked, they don't take an alternate route,
they
> > just retreat multiple spaces.
> > We've been having troops retreat along the shortest unobstructed path
but
> > to always go one space when possible.
> > So, for example, if I rolled a force around to Brest-Litovsk and then
> > defeated Blucher, how we've been playing, with Grodno and Brest-Litovsk
> > containing enemy forces, Blucher would retreat to the swamp space south
of
> > him one space away.  But reading the rules, I think they say he should
be
> > retreated to the northern space of West Galacia or the space between
> Grodno
> > and Koniogsberg.
> > And as I think about it, last turn when Prussia actually did have to
> > retreat.  I would have had the choice of the space he went to, or
sending
> > him to Grodno and then onto Brest-Litovsk since Grodno is occupied by a
> > force that isn't a garrison without a depot.
> > This would seriously alter the dynamics in retreats and what you can do
to
> > a force in retreat or withdraw.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
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