Kyle H on 20 Aug 2003 01:38:00 -0000


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    I have no problem announcing when there are corps present that contain
20+ factors.  As you say, I assumed that it was obvious that with 69 factors
in 3 corps, at least 2 of my corps would have to contain 20+ factors (and it
didn't really matter whether the third did or did not, since the
consequences would be the same).
    I guess there is a question as to whether the declaration has to come at
the beginning of the battle or whether it need only be revealed at the end.
Since I (inadvertantly) only revealed at the end of the battle that I had
corps in excess of 20 factors, we could say that that set precedent, and
that a side need only announce these facts at the end of a battle, if it
matters.  (After all, if France had won the battle, then the fact that the
French side contained corps with 20+ factors would have been irrelevant.  It
was only relevant because France was the loser.)

    So my recommendation is that we set the policy that a side only needs to
reveal whether it started the battle with corps of size 20+ at the *end* of
the battle, and then only if it matters.  (Since it only matters in the
assignment of political points, only the loser of a battle would ever have
to make such a declaration.)
    But if others disagree, it's really not a big deal as far as I'm
concerned.  If people prefer both sides declaring at the beginning of a
battle, I'm happy to do that as well.

kdh

----- Original Message -----
From: "J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 8:14 PM
Subject: Re: [eia] FW: Dice server automated response


> Kyle, I agree that its a good idea to announce when forces are announced
> whether any corps are 20+ factors.  I hope that France will do the same in
> the future (maybe it was obvious from the # of factors you had in the last
> battle, but it never occurred to me to check until you brought it up).
>
> -JJY
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxx>
> To: "public list for an Empires in Arms game" <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 7:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [eia] FW: Dice server automated response
>
>
> >     Oops.  I found the description of the Prussian forces buried deep
down
> > in the email.  In case others missed it as well, Jim wrote, "Prussian
> forces
> > are 35 I,10 C, + 2 Polish cav ... morale is 3.3."
> >     So the Russians do not have cavalry superiority.  However, we still
> need
> > to know *which* corps are present.  Since there are 10 Prussian cavalry
in
> 3
> > corps, I assume that the Prussian I infantry corps has to be present.
> (Does
> > this corps contain 20 factors or more?  We need to know this to
determine
> > how many political points are up for grabs.)  What are the other two
> > infantry corps that are present?
> >
> > kdh
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
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> >
> > > So, the Prussian army inflicts no damage whatsoever to the Russians.
> > (This
> > > is not good, methinks!)
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
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> > > > Subject: Battle of Vilna- round 1
> > > > Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 17:52:18 -0700
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