Kyle H on 9 Feb 2003 18:33:02 -0000


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Re: [eia] supply for allies


    Thanks for pointing out the relevant rules language.  You're probably
right...
    If I were a lawyer, though, I'd point out that the rules break supply
down into 3 categories.  7.4.2 deals with "Regular (Depot) Supply".  7.4.3
deals with "Sea Supply".  And 7.4.4 deals with "Invasion Supply".  Since
7.4.2.2 (the language you cited) refers to "Allied Depot Supply", one could
make the argument that 7.4.2.2 does not apply to invasion supply.
    However, I'm not personally willing to make that argument.  (I think
it's kind of shaky; I could see it going either way.)  I'll leave it to Mike
if he feels strongly enough about it to make the case.
    In conclusion, I withdraw my reservations about the Spanish orders.

kdh

----- Original Message -----
From: "J.J. Young" <jjy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 9:20 AM
Subject: [eia] supply for allies


> Rule 7.4.2.2 says, "Major powers may have their forces live off the depots
> and/or supply chains of their allies, but those allies must pay the costs
> involved.  Naturally, permission is required for this."  Since no mention
is
> made here of those allies having combined movement, my understanding would
> be that it is not required.  If everyone would like, we could agree to
make
> provision in our land orders for the possibility of feeding allied troops
> later in the same land phase; something like:
>
> "Total cost = $7, + possible supply for allies"
>
> But I'm not sure how informative it would be, since Great Britain would
> simply put in this provision every turn for the rest of the game.  I would
> prefer to just assume that it is given for everybody every turn.
>
> For the record, unless a rule change is made, Great Britain pays $2 to
feed
> the 2 Spanish corps at Narva, for a grand British total of $9.
>
> -JJY
>
> -JJY
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kyle H" <menexenus@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 8:55 AM
> Subject: [eia] oops
>
>
> >     As soon as I sent my last email, I realized that Viborg and St.
> > Petersburg are adjacent, not 2 spaces apart.  So $2 is the right cost
for
> > feeding the 2 Spanish-controlled corps there.  (D'oh!)  Sorry about
that.
> > I'm still not sure about using an ally outside of combined movement to
pay
> > for supply.  (After all, GB has already gone and made no provision in
> their
> > orders for feeding Spanish troops.  But even if it had, the principle of
> the
> > matter is that combined movement allows two armies to coordinate.  It
> seems
> > to me like it violates the point of the combined movement rules for two
> > countries to coordinate their logistics in this way without combining
> > movement.  That is, it seems like you are getting the benefit of having
> > combined movement while also getting the benefits of not combining
> > movement - like 2 assault attempts on St. Petersburg.)
> >
> > kdh
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Danny Mount" <mount.23@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 8:51 PM
> > Subject: [eia] Spanish Land Phase
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Supply Depot Creation:  Viborg ($1)
> > >
> > > 1 Infantry Corps in Viborg (leaves 1 I), moves to St. Petersburg and
> along
> > > with the Swedish corps and Castanos attempts to enter the city. (Rolls
> to
> > > follow)($2)
> > >
> > > Blake and the 2 Infantry Corps in Riga leave 2 I and move to Narva
> > (British
> > > to feed)
> > >
> > > 2 Infantry Corps in Barcelona decide to take a month off and go see
> their
> > > families. Its good for their morale. (F/A)
> > >
> > > Total ($3)
> > >
> > > -DEM
> > >
> > >
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