jhelle on 7 Aug 2002 22:37:03 -0000


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Re: [eia] Economic Phase


>    I agree breaking these up into smaller steps is a good idea


   Since Mike is right that all money and manpower that a country
might
>receive (without loans) is visible on the board, I have no
objection to
>sending out public summaries of those numbers, just so people
can
>double-check their own work.  Anything that helps avoid a
mistake is a good
>thing in my book.  And as far as I can tell, there's no rule
against doing
>so for anyone who is ambitious enough to give it a try...
>    About steps H-J:  I'm not sure what to think there.  On the
one hand, I
>can see that, while Russia and Turkey are at war, you might want
to handle
>the Levy Step simultaneously.  On the other hand, as you know,
I'm generally
>against anything that adds extra steps or extra emails.  Hmmm...
>    Well, I guess the lesson of the past week or so has been not
to be so
>caught up in avoiding extra steps.  So sure, if you want we
could have two
>Economic Phases.  Economic Phase I would be steps A-G, and each
country
>could send in its reports whenever.  Economic Phase II would
correspond to
>steps H-J and could be done by escrow.  (BTW, for those who may
not know,
>the steps of the economic phase have been lettered on the inside
(pg. 2) of
>the quick reference card.)
>    However, while we are adding sub-phases, I think we should
consider
>breaking up the Political Phase as well.  For instance, in the
March
>political phase, because I was unaware that war was about to be
declared on
>me, I chose to make Wurttemburg a free state.  If I had been
aware of the
>fact that two more countries were about to declare war, I
probably wouldn't
>have made that move.  Hence, I propose breaking up the Political
Phase as
>well.  My suggestion would be that steps B-E should be Political
Phase I and
>steps F-I should be Political Phase II.  The first of these
steps would need
>to be done by escrow, the second one wouldn't *have* to be, but
it would
>probably still be a good idea.
>    I suppose there is not quite the same need to break up the
Political
>Phase as there is to break up the Economic Phase, but I figure
that it is
>already essentially broken up anyway, in that we all wait to do
the Minor
>Country Control step until after everyone has sent their
Political Phase
>orders.  So why not break it up in a way that makes a little
more sense, and
>gives people the information that they should already have when
making
>decisions later on in the Political Phase?
>
>Let me know what you think.
>
>kdh
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Gorman" <mpgorman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>To: <eia@xxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 1:45 AM
>Subject: [eia] Economic Phase
>
>
>> JJ has already said he is going to send out a post with that
he calculates
>> as the trade incomes for each nation.  Do we want to have a
post of the
>> money and manpower collection phase?  The numbers are all
visible on the
>> map, so anyone who wants to take the time to add up the
numbers will know
>> the income of any other nation.  A posting with what everyone
is getting
>> could avoid calculation errors and make sure we all agree on
the
>> accounting.  We don't want any WorldCOMs or Enrons in our
game!
>> However, if people want to make anyone interested in their
economy go do
>> the math themselves, I can get behind that too.
>>
>> As far as the later part of the Economic Phase, like steps H
thru J.  Do
>> people want that escrowed?  I can see it being possible that
knowing one
>> country is going to cede a minor to another might have an
impact on what
>> units you purchase and the ceding step is supposed to occur
simultaneously
>> in face to face games.  I don't think it's big deal and I'm
perfectly
>happy
>> to have us just post the public stuff that isn't being
centrally
>> determined, like victory points and PSA adjustment, as we
figure it
>> out.  However, I think we should decide if we want to have
simultaneous
>> release of those later phases or if we just don't think it's
going to
>matter.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
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